Why the Hell was I Thrown into Facebook Jail?

A week ago I went to post a late night shot of my view of Gig Harbor on Facebook. After the 3rd attempt to post it to my personal profile failed, I figured it was my app, so it went on Instagram:

Night sky off the deck at Salmon Beach

I decided to try later in the evening to post it again, this time from my desktop. (Yes I would sort of be cross-posting, but every rule has an exception – or 3).

This time when it failed I found out why.

Facebook Jail!

The dreaded message that I had violated a community guideline popped up and I was barred from posting until October 31st. 

My first thought was my client accounts! 

Here’s the thing. If you are blocked from posting to your personal profile. You cannot post to your pages as the admin. Managing social media accounts for a number of clients, that was an instant moment of panic. I immediately tested to see whether I had the ability to publish to pages. I ran a test on my personal account and for TSO Media. It worked. Surprised, but content my business wasn’t affected, my next thought was why I was in Facebook’s proverbial jail.

I was thrown in Facebook jail for using Facebook in an unusual way

With all of mine from the past week were still there and no other obvious reason, I let it go! 

The next couple of days I published content and scheduled a post or two as normal. Everything worked as expected.

Until it didn’t.

On the morning of the 30th, I had a few notifications that posts were not published as scheduled. Crap! I tried to manually publish them. No luck. The ‘lockout’ now included my access as the admin on pages. The good news was I had very little content scheduled (I generally don’t scheduled much – social media marketing should be fluid, natural, and organic. Core content gets scheduled. The rest, a few posts a couple of days out at most.) and I knew I could post again on Halloween (albeit near midnight). My Facebook jail sentence now impacted my business and brand.

The trick now was how would I post content which needed to be published? 

It is possible that having a 3rd party app like Hootsuite would allow posting (I couldn’t test it as I did not have it linked to Facebook preferring the native scheduling for what little I do). There is the concern though that since Hootsuite posts via access to a personal profile it could fail too. Fortunately I know a thing or two – and that there is a way to publish to Facebook within their own platform (well, sort of). Aside from two pieces of content, everything was posted as necessary. Problem solved!

The other two pieces of content? They serve as a perfect example as to why I work with select clients. We have a rapport built over time. A simple message to them that I had an issue posting and asked if they could manually publish the content.

There was still the mystery as to why I was banned. 

I wasn’t thinking much about it, but it was nagging at me in the back of my mind. Then a random thought. Ads!

Not as in creating them, but in blocking them. About a week ago my personal feed was flooded with them. More than 90% had no interest or relevance to me, in any way. None of my behavior on the platform or through online searches would have made Facebook’s algorithm think otherwise. As I saw them, I clicked ‘hide’. When you do, there is a prompt for why. ‘Irrelevant’ is an option and since Facebook’s algorithm is relevance based and they asked or feedback, I gave it. The next prompt allows you to ‘hide all’. Since there was no relevance and would never be, I did – for every one of them. 

I am guessing I hid and blocked future ads from at least 20 brands. To be fair, those for anything related to the outdoors (like REI and Klymit) and marketing, I left. They were relevant. 

With no content removed and never an issue in the past, this is the only thing that made any sense and for good reason. I was messing with Facebook’s revenue stream (even though I was technically helping them by telling them what was relevant to me better help their ad placement – a benefit for brands paying for ads).

Clearly blocking advertisers (even if completely irrelevant) in quantity counts as using Facebook in a way their systems consider unusual. Or inappropriate. Or against their community standards. 

And lands you in jail.

Damn irrelevant ads!

Why so many irrelevant ads?

Everyone gets a feed full of ads now and again. Most of those I speak with see a few every day. They are also quite relevant – or at least directly related to recent online activity. They vent about being stalked by Facebook (to be polite about it) and keep scrolling. 

I rarely saw ads. I am more surprised when I do. Then I get slammed – 20 to 30 over 2 days with one every few posts – and few relevant.

Why?

Unlike most, when it comes to my personal feed, I, share little from pages to my personal feed (that is left to my pages), and I 

  • share no memes
  • share little from pages (that is left to my pages)
  • post few external links
  • limit my interaction to only content which is highly relevant to me
  • avoid political content altogether
  • post nothing about sports (interact with very little too)
  • post no content which references anything in the news or pop culture
  • have no likes, interests, sports, movies, books, etc listed in my profile
  • never click on sponsored links

When I post, it’s almost entirely original and about kayaking or pictures from my deck.

I am a nightmare user for Facebook. 

They have NO idea what is relevant to me. I may have seen fewer than a dozen ads in the past 6 months that are even close to relevant. Effectively, I am impossible to target by brands. I cannot be used to to boost their revenue. 

So, I suspect I get a barrage of ads to ‘test’ me or those brands opted for very broad categories where I do fit. 

Then I hide and block those ads. This was the third such time in 3 months. I guess they didn’t like it so much this time.  

Going forward, I’ll simply ignore the ads. (Of course this article is likely going to get me banned when I share it!)

It keeps me out the Facebook jail but hurts advertisers. They will see pointless impressions leading to lower conversion rates and Facebook will still have no clue as to how to target me. 

Of course all of this is just speculation. Maybe I was just the random winner of a ‘Who gets banned this week’ contest.

I do need to thank Facebook though. I still could comment and interact. Plus, they did provide a bypass for publishing content when you get thrown in jail. So in the end, the only ones deprived by absence where those wanting to see pictures from my deck.

Another thought…. 

A comment prompted another possible reason for my ban – or at least why others are seemingly banned for no apparent reason. I have long suspected Facebook used keywords as part of how they target users for ads. If they are, it would be easy to create a sort of blacklist – words or phrases which, when used, automatically trigger posts being deleted or the author being sentenced to lock-up.

If my blacklist theory is correct, even benign use of a the word or phrase (or the post being deleted by the user as occurred with Tracy per her comment) could lead to a ban unless Facebook’s algorithm was sophisticated enough to read context.

Could one of my posts have run afoul of the list to end up in Facebook jail? Nothing was deleted as I mentioned above, but I guess it’s still possible.

145 replies
  1. andrew
    andrew says:

    The facebook hate speech does not make sense. I have aspergers syndrome (high functioning autism) and began my own local aspergers social group, where I have met new friends (very happy of my accomplishments). I recently had this old classmate from highschool (who also has aspergers ) downright send me a hateful message on facebook. Here is what he wrote:

    “Hey I just want to tell you I do not want to be ur friend. I think you are a retard and ur aspergers group u started are a bunch of retards. Also you are a stupid virgin, ha ha ha. I have slept with 6 different girls. I am the cool guy who has sex with different women. Don’t ever ask me to be in ur aspergers group, I enjoy making fun of other people with aspergers. Why don’t you all just hire prostitutes instead of doing ur stupid group. Retards”

    Tell me does that qualify as hate speech? I reported his message and facebook said that did not violate its terms.

    Then I posted a World War II collage photo in a group that featured Hitler (it was a history group) and boom, I get suspended for 7 days for hate speech. This is ridiculous and not right.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Andrew, this is exactly what my issue with Facebook has been – their AI cannot read context. A picture with an image of Hitler in a history group as part of a discussion is one thing. Used as a comment to provoke or compare someone, is very different.

      Your old classmate’s comment – hurtful. But also a message. Context was that it was private. For me, the nature of the content AND context must be considered.

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  2. Deb S
    Deb S says:

    13 days ago, I logged in only to see that I was blocked from posting for 3 days due to sharing a video that was reported by a media company that owned it. The company reported my page and also forced me to buy the video for a hefty price, which would cancel the report and allow me to log back in. I reached out to the FB email address that the company showed in the email header and Facebook replied that the report was retracted but they do not provide tech support to assist with logging in. I tried to explain that for 12 years my account was in good standing and had no log-in issues. I can’t log in. I have spent about 100 hours or more emailing and searching for a way to get help with it. It’s insane. My biggest problem is that I have 9 business pages for my books. I can’t access them and have emails showing hundreds of messages that I can’t read. I am truly at a loss with this. Has anyone else had a log in glitch or error after their suspension is up?

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Ouch! Two things here – hard lesson that Facebook takes copyright infringement seriously. That aside, you are not the only one I have heard this from – it’s possible that the copyright infringement not only resulted in a ban, but possibly blacklisted your email. That is speculation,but plausible given the other situation I encountered. The second point is always have a back-up admin – or use Facebook’s business manager.

      Getting you access. Am I correct that you have no way to get to your pages? If yes, I haven’t tested the process detailed – and there may be an issue if the pages still show claimed by an active account – but check out https://tso.media/38ULPaB.

      Feel free to reach out if you need help.

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      • Deb S
        Deb S says:

        Thank you for your reply. That is correct, I have no other admins or access to my pages. As for the video, it was a girl hugging a donkey and my grandmother messaged it to me. So, of course, I downloaded and shared it, not thinking about who owned it. It was a 30-second clip that said to have a good day. Never did I think that it would end up this way. I will try the business manager. I did that have at one time when it first launched but really didn’t need it for my books. I will return with an update in a couple of days.

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        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          Deb, I avoided business manager for some time. It affected how content was accessible. Ultimately I had no choice. I’ll be interested to see how it goes.

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    • Rachel
      Rachel says:

      What email did you use I was banned for 4 days over a pic of myself that was just a portrait nothing showing nothing innapropriate and I was banned and I didn’t get a y chance to dispute it or let them know this was clearly a glitch so I need to email them because I am now also blocked from my business page

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  3. Thomas
    Thomas says:

    I have been thrown in facebook jail three times all over accused hate speech.
    First time was back in june, I made a joke on a news page about gay protests, I wrote “all for a bunch of fucking dykes……dykes dykes
    funniest word to utter over and over” I did not mean to be offensive to the glbqt community, I was just bored and thought I was being funny. This was my first time I ever got in trouble on facebook, if I had done that say back in 2015, nothing would have happened.

    Then in October, I responded to a post about covid on a news website writing “Fuck the virus and fuck Christians”
    Again I did not think that would be considered offensive, but I was wrong, got thrown in facebook jail for 7 days this time

    Then most recently, two days ago I was on a facebook group and this guy was being a bully and purposely picked a fight. I got mad and wrote “I will kick your ass, bitch” and now am in facebook jail for 30 days all over that

    From my experiences, it seems that I keep getting suspended from posts in groups. I think the problem isn’t my posts were right as they could offend some, the problem is facebook has cracked down on vulgarity. I mean I am so used to rude people on social media and swearing that I figured anything goes. But within the past year, facebook has cracked down with tighter rules and with AI running everything.

    The sentences themselves I also think are too harsh. Like say I get reported for an offensive post in a facebook group, I should get suspended from posting specifically in groups, not get suspended from posting on my own timeline or even changing my profile picture, that is ridiculous.

    My take on this is to avoid facebook groupsm I left all my groups except for a select few where I know no bullying goes on. Do not swear on facebook, where in the past it was commonly accepted. If someone wants to pick a fight, just block the person and do not respond, something I wish I had done two days ago, no idea just saying that I will kick your ass would result in a 30 day suspension.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Thomas – 2 big points here that you make. The language issue – it is offensive to some BUT what you said can be taken as incendiary. If the comment is taken as hateful (your Christian one) or bullying back/name calling (the kick you ass one) – it will lead to a ban. I’m not overly surprised at the results. Yes, the rules are tighter now.

      Agreed, often the punishments seem harsh. There is plenty of evidence of it. In your case, the severity was likely from repeated offenses.

      The big take-away: “Do not swear on facebook, where in the past it was commonly accepted. If someone wants to pick a fight, just block the person and do not respond.”

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      • Thomas
        Thomas says:

        See I am not trying to say I wasn’t wrong as I can see how those comments could be taken as offensive, even laughing about the word dyke. Its just facebook’s crack down on rules is what got me. I mean its like the military. In the past, I could do this and never get in trouble. The post about christians was on a news stations facebook page, which posted a story about christians thinking covid is end times (if I want to blame anyone, I can blame covid cuz if the virus never happened, that post never would have existed), so I responded making that comment because I am fed up with these religious people saying its the end of the world. What happened to freedom of speech?

        I learned now and like I said I left most of the facebook groups except for a select few groups where there are no debates or people bullying (I still belong to a few photo sharing groups which are never any problems, but many of the other groups become political debates or people brining in personal drama)

        And while we are on the facebook group subject, that is something else, I wanted to bring up. I have noticed that alot of facebook group administrators abuse their power. What I mean by that is if they don’t like you, they can ban you for no reason. Say the group administrator is a trump supporter and you don’t like trump, the administrator can ban you just cuz he hates your political views and there is no repercussions you can take afterwards.

        I even had a problem where I was in a local area rants & raves group. I made a post about my bad experience with Spectrum Internet, in which my internet went out and I made a service appointment, the internet tech was a no show who downright lied saying he was here when he wasn’t and their rude customer service would not even hear me out, so I cancelled my services with Spectrum. I shared that story, asking if anyone else had any similar problems with spectrum. The group admin deletes my post and when I messaged him asking him why, he basically told me its his group, he decides whatever he wants posted. I called him a few choice words and he banned me (no great loss, I did not want to be in a facebook group run by a rude asshole like him). But my point to this is that facebook group administrators often abuse their powers and act like dictators.

        So I would recommend others to watch what they say on facebook groups and not post too much because these groups are filled with people just looking to start a debate or worse fight.

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        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          Understood. Clearly it’s getting harder to navigate what we can say (or not). Your experience on groups is not unusual. I have left several based on others trying to turn everything political. These days I am cautious about joining new groups. I think we are more likely to get banned for comments made in groups than on pages or our personal feed, especially pubic ones. Your advice to watch what people say in groups is great.

          The one downside to groups – they are controlled by whoever created it and appointed the admins. As noted, they can ban people for any reason. I wonder when they do if they alerts Facebook.

          I appreciate your feedback Thomas. Insightful and informative. Thank you.

          Robert

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          • Thomas
            Thomas says:

            Oh thank you for your feedback. I am glad I found this forum as I feel better that I am not the only one going thru these issues on facebook. I just wanted to also add that it is tougher now that AI is the one controlling everything including reports and whats offensive and whats not and issuing suspensions.

            I mean in the old days when actual people were moderating facebook, I think the penalties weren’t as harsh. Like with the dykes comment, I could have appealed and explained that I did not mean to be offensive to the glbqt community, I was only joking around and I am truly sorry. Then possibly the staff person could have given me a break.

            And I did try to appeal each time I got suspended, but each time I appealed, less than 30 seconds later my appeal was denied. Again AI using algorithms making it almost impossible to get an appeal granted. Another thing to ad is that AI often flags content that may be posted as satire and deems it offensive, it can’t differentiate between what is offensive and what isn’t. Like when I said the word dyke, I did say it in an offensive manner, but I have heard from others that they have used that word in an non offensive manner and gotten thrown in facebook jail (there is even a female motorcycle group called dykes on bikes, if you reference them on facebook, you can get flagged and suspsended). This is what happens when you leave robots in charge to monitor everything.

          • Robert Nissenbaum
            Robert Nissenbaum says:

            The AI is certainly creating as many (if not more) issues as it solves. With it ‘flagging’ more content, there is less time for manual review when an appeal is requested. When I had my issue, there was no mechanism to appeal.

    • James
      James says:

      I totally understand what you’re going thru. Told someone to crawl back under their rock and called them a loser and got a 30 day suspension for harassment. Granted I did have a couple of previous posts that crossed the line the last one really surprised me. Guess you can’t say anything downgrading to anyone.. Sad

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  4. Jeff Logan
    Jeff Logan says:

    I received a sentence under questionable terms on Oct 19.
    1 valid violation and 2 were not violations at all.
    I was waiting for my week to end, and when I attempted login on 10/25 I was informed the account was permanently disabled with no reversal.
    I have been cut off from my personal and business pages, with no explanation, no contact, and no appeal process or recourse.
    If they had a person look at my issues, they would immediately agree that I did nothing wrong.
    So then I create a new account which goes through, I search for my original account and see under it “This search has been tied to Conspiracy Theorist Group Qanon” or the like. I am in no way affiliated nor follow them, I do post about how their articles are BS and fake.
    With no way to contact a FB Rep, I cannot do anything. Then, it gets worse.
    I go to log in to my Instagram (which was business only, not a personal account and only posts business related posts) Account is disabled as is our company’s name hashtag…..
    I appeal, and receive an email that it was a mistake and has been reactivated.
    Well, 27 appeals and 27 “mistakes” and reactivations, and I still cannot login.
    As FB owns Insta, there has got to be a connection.
    My business is being effected now, clients are calling and asking if we have closed because of our social media disappearance and I cannot get FB or Insta to correct the issue because there is no way to contact any type of support.
    At this point, I may have to contact a lawyer and have them served.
    ANYONE should have a right to know why they are being removed, yes it is their platform and their rules, but they depend on us for their revenue streams, we should have a way to have a human review the issue as the “robots” cannot grasp the idea of context, only 0 and 1, nothing more.
    Maybe a class action is in order.

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  5. Red
    Red says:

    On October 29th, my personal Facebook account is disabled. I try to log in and it says “Your Account Has Been Disabled. For more information, or if you think your account was disabled by mistake, please visit the Help Center.” So clicked on Help Center and submitted an appeal. I got the email from Facebook and they said they would review the information I provided. They didn’t tell me why my account is disabled. Last night, I tried to log in again. Still disabled. But I clicked on Help Center again and read why my account is disabled. Sure enough it says “Your account has been disabled for violating Facebook’s Terms of Service.” I read somewhere that Facebook is banning fake accounts, militia, QAnon, Antifa, conservative and radical liberal groups. However, based on what my observation, it seems Facebook is catering to the liberals demands.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      First, Facebook has always disabled accounts for violating its terms and conditions. Fake accounts, having more than one account, etc have been a violation since 2007. I have spoken on the topic for a decade.

      Second, I would hardly blame bans on militia, hate, conspiracy, and fake accounts on liberal demands. That’s saying conservatives agree with these things. We should WANT those groups banned.

      The issue though, isn’t bans. It’s the temporary suspensions with either no reason or way to find out (or discuss it) and the hypocrisy in how/why the suspensions are applied that is the problem here.

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      • Allen Brodess
        Allen Brodess says:

        No we should NEVER seak to silence the voices of others no matter how hateful they are they provide clues towards understand the world and making it a better place…Who we should want banned is people like you from reporting over shit you could have easily skipped instead of being a dick yourself trying to ruin the other guys day….eye for an eye makes the world go blind

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        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          I debated about whether to approve the comment BUT there is a point. Not all speech is guaranteed. If I hate a group or people and post it and do so in a way that leads to someone dying, am I responsible? Yes.

          Words carry power. They can be as deadly as a gun in the right/wrong hands.

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  6. Pati
    Pati says:

    I have used the expression white trash in 2 different post, and both times been fired from [——–] fb..there are severel fb users that have repeatedly used the F word..he supports trump, doesn’t admonish or criticize trump and his BS.. I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO CREATE A NEW SITE WITH OUT ZUCKERBERG. I have several artist and friends I follow…I’d also love to be able to respond [————]. But they don’t give you that opportunity..

    (edited to remove foul language and name-calling: I felt the message itself was valid and should be heard – Robert)

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  7. Samantha
    Samantha says:

    Oh and I failed to mention the ban was initially 24 hours. When I disputed the reason it immediately bumped up to 7 days… all for the same f bomb. Yet I’ve reported the n word before and Facebook said it wasn’t a violation ( the bots don’t catch it when it’s in an image).

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  8. Larry
    Larry says:

    The word “bitch” is on the list of banned words. I told a friend to stop being a “whiny bitch” and in seconds I got my last 7 day ban. When I did my 7 days and I logged in I was permanently banned. Dog breeders beware. FB knows no context. RIP George Carlin

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Thank you Larry. And you pointed out the biggest issue with the banning of words and phrases without context.

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  9. Udo Klein
    Udo Klein says:

    Typically you would find yourself in Facebook jail because you posted content Mark Zuckerberg and his fascist cronies don’t agree with.

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  10. Josh F
    Josh F says:

    I also got 30 days on the 20th with no reason why or no appeal seems like we were targeted all around the same date with no explanation. I knew that when Facebook changed its terms starting on the C 2nd of October I would be targeted more but I at least expect a explanation

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      We all should expect an explanation. It seems that Facebook doesn’t want to or care about justifying their decisions.

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  11. Charles
    Charles says:

    I was put in 30 day jail today. I cannot find out why. I have had no post removed. there appears to be no appeals, as I have not had a violation to appeal. I have not spammed or blocked anything, but I do not need FB. I only use it for messaging as I do not use a phone.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Sadly, Charles, it seems to happen too often. The lack of any appeals process – even a way to find out what caused the ban to make sure it doesn’t happen again – doesn’t exist. It’s frustrating.

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      • alasdair
        alasdair says:

        I’m banned for violating their community standards by posting a link to a webpage with famous quotes from the likes of Albert Einstein, Mark Twain AND in this case by Joseph Goebbels (the Nazi propaganda minister) The quote in question was the Tell a big lie repeatedly and eventually everyone will believe it.

        They’re really clamping down on free thinking undesirables.

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    • Chris
      Chris says:

      Happened to me also. The only things I see were from January 31st and earlier. I already served a 30 day restriction for those posts with no new violations since. No idea why I’m restricted for 30 days now.

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      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        Interesting. This, with the rest of what I am reading, makes me think we get added to a ‘watch list’ and anything reported is more likely to trigger a ban. We’re sort of troublemakers now!

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      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        Interesting. This, with the rest of what I am reading, makes me think we get added to a ‘watch list’ and anything reported is more likely to trigger a ban. We’re sort of troublemakers now!

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    • Dani
      Dani says:

      The same thing happened to me. It seems like someone did a large action on user accounts with maximum punishment. I knew that conspiracy accounts were being shut down, but that’s not me. This close to an election is suspicious. I have gotten dinged in the past for engaging with local yokels, but my I had temporarily deactivated my account for the week when it occurred. Therefore the claim that I posted something against community standards to cause this ban is wrong. There’s nothing in the support inbox nor notifications. I can’t even use Messenger which is how I was able to reach out to my support system after losing a partner. This is borked.

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      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        This begs the question of 3rd party interference, bots, and cloned or hack accounts. That is worse when you consider it. Facebook cannot secure its own platform or detect attempts to interfere (or they are allowing it).

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    • Sarah Brister
      Sarah Brister says:

      I got a 30 day ban yesterday morning for saying the Milkovich’s .. a FICTIONAL FAMILY.. were White trash! Im a trump supporter and they have been targeting us since 10/1 when their new guidelines when into affect. I also cannot post on my second account anytime this happens. It usually takes a couple of days.. does anyone know why this is???

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      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        As best I can tell, by following Mark for a while, is that he is well right of center politically. There was a good deal of opposition to Trump that resulted in bans. Anything said that was false was allowed to slide. That did shift in Oct. Once it was called out, there seems to be more on the right now banned. It seems he was trying to show nothing was political.

        He needs to treat both sides the same way – ban both for comments or ban neither!

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      • Rachel
        Rachel says:

        I also have been banned for 30 days for saying to be sure there are no marks on your ballot because I heard your ballot can be voided. But because I am a Trump supporter on another day I was called a white b**** MF and they said all of it. Not only was the comment not removed, even though it was hate speech and harassing. I am going to make the move over to Life.USA it doesn’t have such one sided nonsense and a hate for those who dont agree with them or think how they want them to think.

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        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          The hate is equal on both sides, maybe worse against the more liberal point of view. The problem is FB not applying the rules equally or more – not banning hate speech altogether.

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      • John Lawless
        John Lawless says:

        Has nothing to do with being conservative, I just got banned for calling Tomi Laren a white-trash hussy. More than likely it was our using the words white trash. Hussy isn’t used much anymoe so I am fairly confident it was calling her a white trash Barbie that did it.

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      • Samantha
        Samantha says:

        I hear you. I just got banned for saying the f worse after being called a whole lot of far worse names, but the last time I got it was after I jokingly called MYSELF white trash!

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  12. Jared Eisenmann
    Jared Eisenmann says:

    I am in Facebook jail because of “hate speech”. My offenses were posting that ‘boys are dogs’ on a photo of a friend’s dogs and her son- pretending to be a dog; and in a thread lamenting about covid being around still and that it was preventable- that Americans are lazy and self-centered. (I’m American and I have to deal with anti-maskers most days).

    I appealed both posts, but were denied nearly instantly. Is there any mechanism to have Facebook look at the CONTEXT of a comment before they make a final ruling? I’ve reported posts which were saying someone deserved to be shot as being advocating violence- and they were left up.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      I get it Jared. I’ve gotten to the point of not commenting or posting much as myself since June.

      Facebook’s AI doesn’t seem to have the ability to read ‘context’. I suspect the post/comment is checked against specific words or phrases only, when reported. When something is reviewed by an individual, there is likely tremendous bias. Yet that is all conjecture and any way I review it, the results I see – what you have stated – make no sense.

      Facebook needs to be more transparent in how it’s filtering works, but I don’t see that happening.

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      • David
        David says:

        Great blog post… this is a mystery, I was banned for 7 days for calling someone a “bitch”, however… it could not have been reported, as I got the violation literally 10 seconds after I posted it. I then got a message saying I was being given a “warning” and no action would be taken, but then about 30 seconds later, they said I was restricted for 7 days.

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        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          Thank you and wow! I get the immediate violation – ‘bitch’ triggered the bot to censor the message immediately. That you were given a warning, then restricted with no other notification – I have no idea how that happens.

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        • Rachel
          Rachel says:

          I think they must have bots watching for certain words, and after they see if you are like minded as the FB Zar is they then restrict you

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          • Robert Nissenbaum
            Robert Nissenbaum says:

            The do have certain words/phrases on a blacklist. Use them and it will trigger a review at minimum. It seems context though, may not matter. Or that the context is fluid.

    • Jennifer
      Jennifer says:

      I made a post about absentee and mail in ballots – ending with why are americans so freaking stupid- got me a 7 day ban ( 1st offending comment saying white people suck ( I am white by the way), 2nd comment – calling someone a racist) You can’t even appeal them, just disagree – it’s crazy

      Reply
      • Keith Kamna
        Keith Kamna says:

        I was restricted for thirty days. it was for two posts one nov 2019 and the other July 2020 lol but they restricted me for them already for 30 days I’m a trump supporter don’t know if that is the reason ?

        Reply
        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          Interesting! Makes me wonder if their AI bots are a mess – or did someone report you for those older posts???

          Reply
          • Keith Kamna
            Keith Kamna says:

            No when they take u off they tell no one else can see so they take that down . So it’s not something that someOne else had complained about . It’s funny got three messages in one Day first was for 24 hr restriction the second was an apology that I’m not not restricted lol the third said I’m restricted for 30 days

        • Rachel
          Rachel says:

          Key word TRUMP, that is the issue. FB is against harassment, yet that is exactly what they are doing to conservatives.

          Reply
        • Carlos
          Carlos says:

          I’ve been shut out for a couple of weeks now. No clue why. They’re telling me I shared something from a dangerous group or person, and I’m not a Trump supporter. It just seems random.

          Reply
          • Robert Nissenbaum
            Robert Nissenbaum says:

            Carlos, it is absolutely random! They are targeting words and phrases. The rest of the bans are from others reporting and Facebook not reviewing them well.

      • Marilyn
        Marilyn says:

        I don’t no why I have been banned for 24hrs. My harshest words were something like stupid, reference to some US voters….. I’m
        Not a trump supporter. Too much big Brother these days

        Reply
        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          Marilyn,

          Sounds like the post was flagged based on the reference to voters. I suspect certain words in the conjunction with ‘voter’ triggered it – “stupid” in the same post as ‘US voter” is a red flag. Fortunately, it was only 24 hrs. I don’t see this as Big Brother – Facebook has a right to control what is on their platform as do I in my store or restaurant. They created rules for using the platform.

          In your case, my issue is that there is no one reviewing the content. In some cases – certain words and phrases – should not need a human to review. Others, like yours, may need to be read in context, something a bot cannot do. Those SHOULD be manually reviewed since the result could be a punishment that doesn’t fit the crime or a punishment for a crime that never occurred.

          Reply
    • Rachel
      Rachel says:

      I’m in FB jail for telling someone that they can believe in god AND accept that science is real, and that they aren’t mutually exclusive.

      Reply
      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        Wow! That Facebook would ban you after that comment was reported…clearly shows an issue with their policies.

        Reply
  13. Andrene
    Andrene says:

    I think FB is very bias; trump insults working class American daily, but he’s Never called a
    “Bully”, so why I labeled one? I am sick of the hypocrisy in this country. I think FB support everything mean-spirited Republicans do in this country. I commended a Mom for teaching her child about right from wrong and I am labeled a bully. Michelle Obama was called everything than the child of God, now FB wants to punish anyone who share Mehoenia pics as if it’s a lie. Sick of the hypocrisy.

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      It does appear that Facebook leans far right. However, they have that right. It is though, the hypocrisy of getting thrown in their jail for something that others don’t that bugs me.

      Reply
        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          Right? Today I read something about their plan to reduce their carbon footprint, yet they allow climate deniers a platform. Facebook is becoming synonymous with hypocrisy – or they just lean whatever way they can to make money. Neither is acceptable in my opinion.

          Reply
      • Wayne Buchholz
        Wayne Buchholz says:

        I left Facebook about a year ago. I didn’t see them leaning right. I seen them leaning left.
        But to me it not how or witch way they are leaning. The fact is that they are silencing Americans views. If someone is so sensitive that they can’t handle being called out on something and more likely than not they don’t even know the person that is calling them out. All i can say to that person is grow up and get a life.
        Not everyone will agree you and no two people will ever see eye to eye on everything. So learn to debate and if the person you are trying to debate refuses to have a conversation without be civil then you are just wasting your time and it’s best to end the conversation!

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        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          Thank you Wayne. You are absolutely correct that which way the platform leans doesn’t matter. And yes, it’s always best to walk away than engage in a conversation where one side is unable or willing to consider any other viewpoint – or at least accept it.

          I am not sure they are silencing American views. To use a family analogy, we are living in their house. We need to play by their rules even if we don’t like them. My issue, and clearly that of others, is that Facebook doesn’t seem to apply their rules fairly or with reason or logic.

          Reply
    • Sarah Brister
      Sarah Brister says:

      Actually, I am a trump supporter and we are constantly thrown into fb jail for no good reason! FB is a very far left leaning company.. pls use your heard when you type stuff out. Why would FACEBOOK side with TRUMP SUPPORTERS????? Lmfao!!!! Could it be.. *gasps* Facebook just SUCKS??

      Reply
      • Brandi
        Brandi says:

        Yes I got in fb jail for sharing a story from a scientist wife who used to make vaccines and why he quit then I got blocked again for the sentence “they lie , they are such snakes.” If you don’t agree with them your put in fb jail it’s absurd

        Reply
      • Samantha
        Samantha says:

        That doesn’t explain why Facebook does it to liberals too. Facebook does this to all sides, it’s an equal opportunity hypocrite.

        Reply
    • Jeff Logan
      Jeff Logan says:

      Someone called the former first lady a piece of trash, I said, “Really? And nothing to say about this?” and posted a censored picture from one of Melania’s layouts, and that got me a nudity violation, a censored picture……

      Reply
  14. Mike Morrison
    Mike Morrison says:

    I am in Farcebook jail for 30 days… this my fourth stint in social media sing-sing.

    The first time I was restricted for 24 hours for posting “nudity.” It was a funny meme (that was widely shared) featuring several former First Ladies of the US standing together with our current First Lady… in the meme Melania is naked but she has her hand covering her groin and her nipples are pixilated. So I don’t know why it was considered “nudity.” I’ve seen much worse.

    The second time someone called me a “snowflake” and that people like me are “sheeple… who should just leave the country if we don’t love America.” I replied by calling him a “vacuous douchenozzle with a fruitcake for a brain” and I made the point he does not understand the freedoms protected by our Constitution. I thought it was an appropriate response, but it was deemed ‘harassment & bullying’. Fair enough… I was jailed for 3 days. I decided to never be insulting any more… even if someone insulted me first.

    I then got 7 days in the hole when someone called me a “commie libtard” who “hates America.” I replied “You have your head up your Тяumphole.” Geeez… my response was not really even an insult. Oh well. I resolved to be more careful.

    I got 30 days when what looked like a troll account insulted me in broken English… I answered “Shut up and eat your borscht. Хорошего дня Robert.” (Russian translation: ‘Have a nice day’.) This is NOT an insult. It was meant to be funny… not mean-spirited. Darn!

    I never have used profanity, been threatening or used racist language and I see much worse than what got me suspended (including from elected officials), so I am confused as to why I keep getting suspended.

    There is a “review” process available… I push a button that states: “if you think this is was made in error.” That is the only option for appeal… each time they messaged me back to say “We reviewed your comment and it does not follow community standards.”

    My last three suspensions have been when I have replied to someone who insulted me. In the future I will NOT respond to any idiot… I’ll write my comment and instantly block anyone who tries to engage me in an inane point/counterpointless discussion. In the future I will BLOCK people instead of arguing.

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Mike, this is typical of what I have seen. Even in your first incident, I doubt everyone posting that meme was jailed. As with the comments, it’s being reported that leads to jail.

      Thanks for the comment.

      Reply
    • Jimbo
      Jimbo says:

      I’m currently enjoying my 3rd 30 day ban since April- the first was for posting a screen shot of the CDCs provisional death count, and was banned for spreading misinformation. After the 30 days, I got a message that an error was made and I should not have banned.

      The second was for a post from 2006. The third was for posting a picture of a tattoo on *my arm* …

      I created a new account with a new name, email address. And removed my personal info from my old account, but this new profile is blocked with no explanation as of yet.

      Reply
      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        Jimbo, rather impressed they acknowledged the mistake. As for the last ban, Facebook requires all accounts to be a real person. It’s possible they caught it or perhaps there was a complaint made.

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    • Ellie
      Ellie says:

      I’m in 24 hour Facebook jail for calling the president’s wife a gold plated whore. For years I saw Michele Obama called horrible racist names and Facebook barely batted an eye, or when my husband’s nutty cousin called me a libtard more than once, there were no consequences. I guess zuckerberg doesn’t want to offend his president or whatever.

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  15. Gerry Kurowski
    Gerry Kurowski says:

    My big sin was calling someone a troll. No threats, no other insults. I believe that my “so called insult” was as tame as the person who must have reported me. Disgusting that Facebook appears to have made a political decision. ( Sorry, but she was a staunch Trump defender and I said she must be naive, overwhelmingly stupid, or a troll. This got me booted … can’t post,

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  16. C. D. Johnson
    C. D. Johnson says:

    I was recently put in F-jail for 30 days for this post I wrote making fun of a dating site for sugar-daddies. The notice said that I was spamming and that I had posted nudity. It was clear in the post that I was not promoting the site, and the picture that they said was nudity was a shot of the websites page with a few women all completely dressed in just average clothes and smiling. The strange thing is, I made the post three years ago and there hadn’t been any additional comments or likes on it since I first posted it.

    I complained to facebook, and on the same day I complained, they shot back a message saying that they got it wrong. And yet, I am still sanctioned for the entire 30 days as far as I can tell.

    Oddly enough, about two months ago, I starting getting random emails from someone asking me about my Better Business Bureau complaint I filed against facebook for wrongly taking down one of my philosophy groups for unspecified community violations. Apparently they were doing research for some antitrust appearance that was aimed at facbbook, amazon, instragram, and google. I reported that facebook later said that the group had been sabotaged along with thousands of others also taken down around the same time, but as yet, their promise to reinstate the groups is almost two years old and not a priority it seems. One group did manage to come back, but it frozen and only viewable to the admins. I actually managed to get someone from facebook to respond to my BBB post, but it just ended with them been frustrated by my unwillingness to accept their bullsh*t replies which were basically just requests for me to view their policy. The one that the group hadn’t actually violated in any way.

    Around the same time that I got the emails I responded to (supposedly in confidence), facebook started randomly hitting us with violations for members posts. In one, a member had posted a picture of a half-dressed woman. All her parts were covered, but she was in a skimpy bakini. And then another member tried to post something with a lot of racist language in it. The thing is, we deleted the post before it even made it to the page because we approve all posts, and facebook still placed it in our group quality section as a violation even though no one ever saw it except the admin who deleted it. After that, our new membership requests mostly driven by facebook mentions dropped 75%. We went from around 600 new members a week to just around 120-150. So I started posting in the admin groups complaining about this treatment. And a couple of days after I posted a scathing post about how their claims of sabotage was probably a sham they used to delete unwanted groups, I wake to a notice that I am banned for 30 days for a post I made three years ago which they themselves say violated no policy.

    After that, I went on Consumer Reports and made another complaint. So I fully expect that after I am out of jail they will hit me with another supposed violation. The cost of having a big mouth and loose fingers, I guess. In which case, I need to write some articles so I at least give them better reasons to sanction me.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Wow! Thank you for sharing this. I am not surprised by much of it. The issue with your group content leading to your violations – even though the content was moderated and deleted prior to being publicly visible. They have access to that content and you are not the first to let us know action has been taking before moderators had a chance to approve or delete the content.

      I agree with the loose fingers. Seemed to be my issue too! Always has been.

      Reply
    • Jeff Logan
      Jeff Logan says:

      C.D.:”The notice said that I was spamming and that I had posted nudity. It was clear in the post that I was not promoting the site, and the picture that they said was nudity was a shot of the websites page with a few women all completely dressed in just average clothes and smiling. The strange thing is, I made the post three years ago and there hadn’t been any additional comments or likes on it since I first posted it.”

      So this algorithm is going retroactive….
      That will only end badly for FB. If something was OK before, then not OK from Oct 2, on, they should not be penalizing for things that happened before the new terms went into effect. They may lose more than half their members…..

      Reply
  17. Sandi
    Sandi says:

    Thank you for this information. I’m wondering if anyone who was thrown into Facebook jail had problems afterwards?
    I was suspended recently for 24hrs. Similar story, wasn’t sure why, no appeal, etc.
    Now I’m not receiving notifications, which is a problem because I have a professional page too.
    I’ve literally tried *everything* and of course there’s no help.
    Any advice?
    TIA

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Ouch! Sandi, the one suggestion would be to head to the notifications and turn all of them off for 24 hours, then turn them back on. It’s possible that when your account was suspended all of the settings didn’t reconnect.

      There is the remote chance that what didn’t reactivate was those notification settings…and on Facebook’s end. That there may be no solution for right now.

      Reply
  18. David
    David says:

    its rediculas i get a 30 day in Jail for stating in a chat group that Convo19 came from China why are we not getting on their case and Bingo in FB Jail 30 days so my question is what happened to freedom of Speech and the truth ???

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      David, whether we agree with the policy of Facebook controlling content, they are a private (non-government) company we as users, choose to use. As for the ‘truth’, one, I can’t speak to what you posted since I cannot see the content and two, it seems there are differing versions of what is true these days. Regardless of what you believe to be true, someone else likely believes the opposite. So, in some twisted way, they are preventing lies, not blocking what is true.

      The bottom line in your case is that something you said went against a policy. Agree or not, we have to play by Facebook’s rules to use the platform. My real concern is when there is no known reason for the ‘Facebook jail’ sentence. We cannot play by the rules if we don’t know what they are or why/how we broke them. I want to see that changed.

      Robert

      Reply
      • Frank
        Frank says:

        Yes: They should ‘at least’ cite ‘How many days’ to be in jail.. and also a ‘copy’ of what you wrote or pictured , often innocently, to cause such a suspension. Better yet, let’s try to ‘end’ this hopeless ‘addictive’ site and hope someone starts a ‘Conservatives’ one…and get rid of this rich little shithead once and for all…from ‘controlling’ this media..!

        Reply
        • Jeff
          Jeff says:

          I just got a 24hr ban due to a couple of comments I made which supposedly violated some community standards. One was a picture of “cranial rectal inversion” (Google it) that was supposedly against the rules regarding “nudity and sexual activity”, of which there were neither, and one was because of a comment I made saying, “Just because he doesn’t say that doesn’t mean he’s a false teacher,” and that was supposedly against the rules regarding bullying. SMH

          Reply
          • Robert Nissenbaum
            Robert Nissenbaum says:

            That sounds like Facebook’s AI is only capable of picking up specific words – rectal in this case – and not how they are used. Seems like medical procedures being discussed will be the next wholesale block of content to be filtered and lead to bans.

  19. Vicki
    Vicki says:

    I tried to log on to Facebook Sunday morning. It says that it’s updating my information and may take a while. Here it is Wednesday and still can’t log on. Am I in Facebook jail, or are they updating my information? If that is the case, it shouldn’t take that long. Does not give anymore information than I stated.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Vicki, It does not sound like Facebook Jail since that normally is a limit on your ability to post content and sometimes comment. I am not entirely sure why you cannot log in. Can you find your profile – as in can you friends see it? Usually you’ll get an alternate login method but not always. If yes, then there is a more technical problem and I would have to look deeper as to why. I would start by seeing if you can get access from another computer or smartphone.

      If they cannot see your profile, you may have been hacked or the account deleted – that could explain the inability to login.

      Robert

      Reply
  20. Barbara
    Barbara says:

    All I post to my FB are pictures of animals and some jokes. I still post and I can see the posts but my friends cannot see them and no one can comment on them. It has been this way over 5 weeks now. Any help I can get is appreciated.

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Barbara, I am happy to tale a look but there is a chance, if you can post but they are not visible that there is a security setting that was changed. Can you see your friends’ posts and comment on those?

      Robert

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        • Robert Nissenbaum
          Robert Nissenbaum says:

          My first thought, Barbara is that you have your privacy settings to you only seeing your posts. Start by heading to your personal profile and under your name in a post is the time you posted. To the right of that is an icon – Click on it to see how posts are set to share and change it.

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          • Barbara
            Barbara says:

            I went to my profile, saw the icon to the right of the time posted and saw it was set on only to share with 1 friend! So I changed them all to be set on ‘seen by all my FB friends’ and I will see what happens. I posted a new item to my FB tonight but up came the same ‘1 friend icon’ which I immediately changed. So for some reason every time I post something it does not seem to automatically go to ‘all FB friends see’. Why I don’t know. But I will change it each time if I have to. Thanks. I will let you know if I get any comments tomorrow! You have been a big help.

          • Barbara
            Barbara says:

            It worked! Thanks, thanks and thanks again. So I have to change it from 1 friend to all friends each time, but it’s worth it!

          • Barbara
            Barbara says:

            I don’t know how to change it in my privacy settings so it is permanent. I click on the icon way over on upper right and it has ‘settings’ on the menu. I click on ‘settings’ but then I don’t know what to do to change it. Help?

          • Robert Nissenbaum
            Robert Nissenbaum says:

            Head to settings, then on the left side menu at the top (4th down), click on ‘privacy’. At the top on the right there is an option for ‘who can see future posts’. That can be set to friends.

          • Andrene
            Andrene says:

            GM,
            Thanks for addressing my concern. Now that my suspensions were confirmed, I have far too much crap on my plate to waste time on FB. Time has really changed. Our Democracy is at risk, while others just DON’T care. How do you muzzle just a particular group simply because you dont think they should have a voice? However, another group just do as they wish, sending Death Threats or share individuals private home addresses and contact number? Time had changed for the Worst. Thanks again,
            Andrene

          • Robert Nissenbaum
            Robert Nissenbaum says:

            You’re welcome, Andrene. Personally, I am in complete agreement with you.

            As a side note, Facebook’s behavior – which likely goes against many brands forcing them to condone it to see benefit from the platform (and therefore continuing to enable that behavior – is a good reason for a good website and a place you own for your content. That is as true for individuals. It’s a pleasure to be able to have conversations here, like this one, without risk.

            Robert

    • Samantha
      Samantha says:

      I could be wrong, but it sounds like your privacy settings might have been switched to “only me” by mistake.

      Reply
  21. lindette bourne
    lindette bourne says:

    there’s people I see videos posted they’re dropping the F bomb the MS bomb constantly and I get banned for what reason I have no idea I share animal posts I might get upset a few times but believe me it’s not half as bad as half of these things I see and how do I know what I did if I don’t know if you don’t tell me, oh my, Oh my god so I am banned from posting lost dogs missing kids charities I desperately need help COVID-19 information oh my goodness!

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      It seems Facebook is using a bot and their algorithm to screen for specific words and phrases within content, in many cases, there have been a series of mistakes they have admitted making. Videos seem to skip that issue. The other reason I have been seeing bans – content being reported by others. Neither is helpful in learning why you were banned which is the biggest problem. We cannot correct behavior we don’t know we are doing wrong.

      Reply
  22. Andrea
    Andrea says:

    So I’ve been in fb jail a few times before, but this time is different. Someone in a group I’m in was baiting and harassing me and I said something to him. He turns around and reports me and got me banned for 3 days. I then go to switch over to my backup account only to find out that one is banned too smh WHY? And on top of that I can’t even post, comment or react in the group that I moderate. I was I. Fb jail in January, I could still post and comment in that group as usual. When did they change this? Facebook has gotten so ridiculous

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      Andrea, I think they have gone a bit nuts with the bans. At least let us know why so we can learn from it!

      The profile profile – having one is a technical violation of their terms but odd they would have banned it. The change is posting – similar to what happened in my case – could be a way to make the ban hurt a bit more. I can’t risk the loss of posting access so I am more careful than I’d otherwise be.

      Reply
  23. Brad
    Brad says:

    I’m banned for a month. I posted something dirty and I didn’t know it was out in the open. It was from outside of a private group.

    Reply
    • Brad Schuh
      Brad Schuh says:

      I also tried making a new account but with the same number. It said you may want to slow down before we put restrictions on your account. We do this to keep the community safe.

      Reply
        • Christy Ferguson
          Christy Ferguson says:

          Yesterday night I received this pop up message on my FB page stating there was suspicious activity on my account. It then asked me to identify myself and the camera screen came up and it asked me to turn my head to the left, to the center and then to look up.
          Then I received this message stating :
          We are currently reviewing your submission and you can not access Facebook at this time. Please see picture below. This happened at 9:40pm EST.
          Please let me know if my account has been hacked. I’m worried about my information on my iPhone.

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    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      That will definitely get you in trouble. Even if posted in a private group, all it takes is one person to report it and you get banned. The ban is normally longer for sexual content than other issues.

      Reply
  24. Tracy
    Tracy says:

    Dang! I LITERALLY just got jailed for a post that I had actually DELETED yesterday. I posted it, thought nah too contraversial, deleted it immediately…this morning jail..can’t even use messenger.

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      I get it Tracy. I am being more drawn to the idea that Facebook maintains a ‘blacklist’ of words and phrases. While they may be used in a benign ways or get deleted, they still trigger the getting thrown in jail.

      Reply
    • Pam
      Pam says:

      Completely wrong for facebook to put some one in their “jail” this is still America freedom of press and speech they are taking away our constitutional rights

      Reply
      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        Pam, yes we have Freedom of Speech and while public, Facebook is still a private business. As such, they are allowed to choose what they want to publish. The real issue is that they aren’t applying their own rules equally.

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  25. U0999
    U0999 says:

    This may explain. I got thrown in jail 1st time for just simply browsing my newsfeed. Like you I have no political content or memes. my interests are cat rescue and woodworking and vacation rentals. Been shown strange ads. Now seemingly every time I do ANY action on FB such ad posting an original picture of snowfall on my Own profile, I get jail extended by one day ending on the time I posted. I think FB is officially off the rails. How can a photo of snow be against any standards, community or otherwise?

    Reply
    • Robert Nissenbaum
      Robert Nissenbaum says:

      I have heard some interesting stories. Aside from you making comments which bothered someone resulting in them reporting you, it makes no sense. Facebook may be off the rails, or it could be their algorithm picking up a word or phrase you are using. The only other thought is how much you are posting , but that doesn’t make sense either.

      Reply
    • Dijomc
      Dijomc says:

      Oh I agree with you 100%. I posted a meme of KKK in full dress…one was pink, washed MAGA hat with the robes and they’ve drank all the bleach. I copied from my friends wall. I’m out for 30 days, he’s up and running. There is no consistency, no possibility of asking why you and no one else. FB gas really cracked down on Democrat post as they let republicans post lie after lie. I desperately wish there was an alternative!

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      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        Dijomc, in this case there may be a specific reason you were ‘jailed’ and your friend wasn’t. When it comes to posted content, there are 2 primary reasons for bans. The first is offense or copyright infringing content – something which triggers Facebook’s AI bots. The second – the content was reported, then reviewed by someone at Facebook. In this case, as the content remained on your friend’s profile, it’s likely the latter. Someone saw what you posted and took offense, so they reported the content as against community guidelines.

        Whether I agree with the policy or not, when someone gets banned for posting a particular piece of content, I will respect Facebook’s decision. Their platform, their rules – whether we agree or not. I am bothered, however, that we get no notification as to why the ban. Tell me so I don’t do it again. In my case – I am totally clueless. That’s not helpful.

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    • Jennifer
      Jennifer says:

      I agree – the post that got me a 7 day ban was posted before the 2 that got me the 24 hr and 3 day bans – they had to go back a look for it – and it was about absentee and mail in ballots – makes no sense

      Reply
  26. Jocelyn
    Jocelyn says:

    A great reminder to all of us not to have all our business eggs in one basket. Especially baskets we don’t own and have control over. It was great you had the skills to finagle a way to post what you needed to. But had you had been one of those businesses that uses Facebook or another social media platform as their virtual business home base, it might have been another story.

    Reply
    • Jeff Logan
      Jeff Logan says:

      Jocelyn, I get what you are saying exactly. You cannot have a business page separate from a personal account. In order to make a business page, you need to log in with your personal account because FB requires it be a real name, not a fictitious entity (even though it is a registered business name).
      My business is being effected by an improper ban by FB. I have clients calling and asking if we are still in business because FB and IG are both down from being banned and our IG account is only the business, not personal. It is tied to our FB business page though, and that requires the previously mentioned personal login credentials.

      Reply
      • Robert Nissenbaum
        Robert Nissenbaum says:

        And that was exactly my issue – the ban for nothing remotely seen as wrong affected my clients. This is a good reason why we recommend multiple trusted admins.

        Reply

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